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I actually kind of get why some people don't believe in evolution. I personally love it and think it's wondrous, and can connect the idea and theory to every moment that I live and every living thing that I witness.

But, it's not like gravity, where you can drop a stone a hundred times and notice that it drops every single time. Evolution is an entire system, often with a process too slow for us to really see happening, so it has to be explained more than it is experienced, and only through that explanation can we connect it to experience.

I don't remember being born, actually, but having watched other people get pregnant and give birth, and listening to people who remember the way I was before I could remember, and seeing pictures, well...the common opinion becomes good enough for me.

I'm also a fan of contemporary political theory, or identity politics. Statistics can show the effects of a marginalized group of people, but if the group of people who are not being marginalized don't get it, or even those who are supposedly marginalized don't get it, I sort of get why they don't--because it's a system, the kyriarchy, with microaggression and situational privileges and relative privileges and all that. I keep on with it because it's explained a lot, it's articulated a lot about my own personal experiences...and then comes unpacking the baggage of what I must own up to. If the latter came first, of course I'd be put off by it and consider this social theory "just a theory" or conveniently self-serving of people who like to lay claims of being oppressed just for personal emotional manipulation or something.

Is the systemic a way to get a better perspective of the personal, to you? Or do you check what system is worthy of believing in, by personal experience? Or something else?

I'm a Christian. I believe in God. However, I don't think that God and science are mutually exclusive. Many Christians believe in the Bible, which basically contradicts evolution theories. But the Bible has been translated and passed through ancient politics so many times, that I don't know if parts have been added or removed through the years. My own personal belief is that God created the universe. But I think it's entirely possible that he may have created life forms on other planets, as well. I also think that he created beings to evolve. Whether we came from monkeys or not is beyond me. However, I do believe that man evolved from a different form of human, such as Neanderthals and the like. Look at things that have come from interbreeding. That's a form of evolution. It's happening in the here and now, so there is proof.

(10-20-2015, 01:56 PM)AceTy31 Wrote: [ -> ]I'm a Christian.  I believe in God.  However, I don't think that God and science are mutually exclusive.  Many Christians believe in the Bible, which basically contradicts evolution theories.  But the Bible has been translated and passed through ancient politics so many times, that I don't know if parts have been added or removed through the years.  My own personal belief is that God created the universe.  But I think it's entirely possible that he may have created life forms on other planets, as well.  I also think that he created beings to evolve.  Whether we came from monkeys or not is beyond me.  However, I do believe that man evolved from a different form of human, such as Neanderthals and the like.  Look at things that have come from interbreeding. That's a form of evolution.  It's happening in the here and now, so there is proof.

Then sadly, you don't believe the word of God. The bible says he made everything and it was good, he didn't use evolution. The bible proves that evolution is false and the archaeological evidence to go along with it. The bible is incredibly scientifically accurate. And the bible says God used men of God to write the bible through the Holy Spirit. His word is pure and stands the test of time. So if you don't believe there is a complete word of God, then you should throw your bible out as you don't even trust God's promises or his word.

(10-20-2015, 06:13 PM)beauty22 Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-20-2015, 01:56 PM)AceTy31 Wrote: [ -> ]I'm a Christian.  I believe in God.  However, I don't think that God and science are mutually exclusive.  Many Christians believe in the Bible, which basically contradicts evolution theories.  But the Bible has been translated and passed through ancient politics so many times, that I don't know if parts have been added or removed through the years.  My own personal belief is that God created the universe.  But I think it's entirely possible that he may have created life forms on other planets, as well.  I also think that he created beings to evolve.  Whether we came from monkeys or not is beyond me.  However, I do believe that man evolved from a different form of human, such as Neanderthals and the like.  Look at things that have come from interbreeding. That's a form of evolution.  It's happening in the here and now, so there is proof.

Then sadly, you don't believe the word of God. The bible says he made everything and it was good, he didn't use evolution. The bible proves that evolution is false and the archaeological evidence to go along with it. The bible is incredibly scientifically accurate. And the bible says God used men of God to write the bible through the Holy Spirit. His word is pure and stands the test of time. So if you don't believe there is a complete word of God, then you should throw your bible out as you don't even trust God's promises or his word.

Please do not attack my faith.  I believe in God.  I gave my soul to him at the age of five.  What I was saying is that the Bible has not remained pure.  It had gone through committee and politicians, such as Constantine.  This topic was about personal beliefs.  I gave my personal belief.